Schumacher College with Pavel Cenkl

by | April 28, 2021 | Permaculture Podcast | 0 comments

In this episode of Sense-Making in a Changing World, it is my delight to welcome Dr Pavel Cenkl, Head of Schumacher College and Director of Learning at Dartington. We talk about the kind of higher education we need in the world today, and explore the innovative and immersive programs offered at the College – from Holistic Science, Regenerative Food and Farming, Ecological Design Thinking, and more.

Pavel has worked for more than two decades in higher education where there is learning with practice and thinking with embodiment. He  has been at the college now for a few years and developing new courses too at the intersection of movement practice, ecological thinking, and environmental philosophy.

Pavel is also a passionate endurance and adventure runner. Over the past five years through a project called Climate Run. Pavel has covered hundreds of miles in the Arctic and subarctic on foot to bring attention to the connections between our bodies and the more-than-human world in the face of a rapidly changing climate.

Pavel holds a Ph.D. in English and is the author of many articles, chapters, and two books. Most recently he has co-edited a book celebrating the 30th anniversary of Schumacher College with Satish Kumar, Transformative Learning: Reflections on 30 Years of Head, Heart, and Hands at Schumacher College. New Society Publishers, 2021.

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I acknowledge the Traditional Custodians of the land on which I live and work – the Gubbi Gubbi people. And I pay my respects to their elders past present and emerging.

Podcast Audio: Rhiannon Gamble

Podcast Music: Kim Kirkman


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